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[#105976]
Written by: farrel23 [25/09/08, 23:38] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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Got this from a different site and it had some glitches it misses out dialogue at some points and the picture sort of stutters at bits as well Should be nuked wait for a proper. |
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[#105978]
Written by: kissmyass [25/09/08, 23:56] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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[#105980]
Written by: lan-di [26/09/08, 00:14] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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-=NUKE=- grp.req supernatural.402.hdtv-0tv They nuked it by themselves. Some parts have audio problems... like a scratched record. You don't miss any dialogs, but you hear some scratches over them (not loud)I just finished it and yes, it's watchable. If you're in a rush, i would suggest you to watch it, too... because the propers at supernatural, use to be released late... even the next day (like 4x01 proper-FQM) and even worse next week (like 3x14 proper-BSGTV). Unless you stand lucky, and another release group has already captured it. |
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[#105997]
Written by: alex2069 [26/09/08, 01:45] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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Just thought I'd confirm - sound is annoying. At first I thought I knocking my speaker lines or something, or they were just touching weird; watchable though. Side rant: Is it just me, or have the amount of nukes in the "big name" shows been rather high lately? Driving me insane, all so they can try and be the first out. Don't any groups have a QC "department" anymore? Trying holding it back for 30 min and skim through the episode to ensure it's good damn it. Who gives a damn who releases it first - I want a good quality version over a fast release (seriously, 30 min is crap all to wait). |
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[#106006]
Written by: NorGuy [26/09/08, 02:33] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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I guess after a couple of beers it's not noticeable at all, think I'll stick with this one, its Friday, after all  |
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[#106011]
Written by: Wiking [26/09/08, 03:21] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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Get Proper: /Supernatural.S04E02.Are.you.there.God.Its.Me.Dean.Winchester.PROPER.HDTV.XviD-FQM/ From Nfo: "Proper notes: 0TV's release was nuked grp.req for audio glitches." |
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[#106019]
Written by: SatoSky [26/09/08, 04:39] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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Smallville and Supernatural get nuked so often I just download the 720p releases. I don't have an HD monitor, but they playback just fine. No macroblocking or audio glitches either. |
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[#106025]
Written by: Chichipio [26/09/08, 05:15] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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They do. All that matters to them is releasing first. It's their game and they have the right to play it the way the want to. Do you think they care about YOU or anyone else getting good quality or having quotas? They don't give a damn about p2p users. They don't cap shows for us, they do it for themselves and they only care about what the other groups have to say. The fact that we can get our hands on these files is just a consequence of that race and the existence of release groups (bless them!) that have access to those files and share them with us. So don't expect they change their system just because it would benefit p2p users. Be grateful that there is a race at all or none of this would be possible. This is not to say that we can't bitch about the amount of propers or that this or that group sucks (coff.. XOR coff..) but just know that there's no chance in hell that the bitching or the proposed solutions will change something. admin : I like your style. |
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[#106089]
Written by: demondiablo [26/09/08, 12:21] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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Just in case anyone was wondering this was an excellent episode. Shows story scripting is only getting better and better with every new season, unlike other shows that need to be given the swift axe. That said Chichipio gots it right. Time and time again I sit here having to read useless whiny bitch ass posts about how people want their cake and to be able to eat it to. If you got a problem that theres a half a milisecond stutter at 44:15 into the ep then maybe you should go and rip the shit yourself! The miniscular issues that you people point out for a free rip is unbelievable. Make up your own group and come out with your "1337" rips if you people got such "great suggestions" and critiscism to go around. admin : and yours too |
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[#106131]
Written by: alex2069 [26/09/08, 21:33] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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Ok Chichipio, and the admin apparently, that makes no sense at all. They release them FOR US. What's the point in releasing them for themselves when they already have it? lol Or do you think they like releasing them for no apparent reason? They do this for the "fame" (hence their flawed perception that OMGZ FURST POST!!!111), and you don't get fame from no one, you get fame from people knowing about you. They release things for US to GET fame and acknowledgement for their work - it's for us. Also, they obviously care about quality to some extent, or they wouldn't release propers, and there would be no nuking system; so someone out there other than myself care about quality. I will say this though, I do appreciate their work, and am grateful for it. But seriously, 30 minutes would not hurt anyone. With all the nuking going on lately, I'm beginning to "blacklist" certain groups - they can play their little game of first. But what's the point in being first when fewer and fewer people bother downloading it? |
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[#106148]
Written by: sCifI3001 (Moderator) [27/09/08, 00:00] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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for fucks sake, do some research ht tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scene fame my arse in dumbdumb language.... as basic as it gunna get they live in a world of barter they upload , they get credit to download there upload is nuked ... they get penalized (loose credit) |
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[#106186]
Written by: alex2069 [27/09/08, 05:49] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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That may be the case (with all their rules or whatever), but why do it all in the first place? They want recognition of their work - they want to be known as a good group (which in the end equates to fame/acknowledgement and being well known and respected) If their upload is nuked, they lose credit (and respect from their downloaders)... Then why not spend an extra 30 min (hell even 5 min, skip through it and watch a couple of 2 min scenes here and there) for a QC check? If they'd only spent TWO minutes watching this specific episode, they'd have known there were problems... TWO MINUTES! Are you telling me that two minutes is too hard or too long a time to spend on a simple QC to stop them losing their "credits"? |
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[#106187]
Written by: sCifI3001 (Moderator) [27/09/08, 05:55] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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7 seconds . . . remember, they hate p2p, we do not exist in their eyes except for the threat to their existence do to the publicity we give their product |
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[#106204]
Written by: alex2069 [27/09/08, 08:06] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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Wow, I didn't realise it was down in the seconds to a release time. That's actually rather impressive, lol. However, in the eyes of the users; their "fans" if you will (no matter via. P2P or IRC or USENET, whatever their release methods), 0TV has lost a small amount of "respect/fame/whatever" from me (and likely other users) because of their lack of QC and the fact that we had to waste time downloading it twice. (not singling out 0TV here, most groups have this problem) Had EZTV released the DOT release as well, I would've chosen them over 0TV, simply because of the fact that I've had more 0TV release problems than DOT - so no matter their credits or whatever, and no matter how I was obtaining it (I have on occasion gone via. IRC/USENET, though usually BT), constant PROPERS hurts them more than it does to release it 7 seconds earlier than their rivals. Which is my main point. I've seen multiple comments on many different series from many different groups with users complaining about quality, and being forced to download a PROPER. If I had known before hand that 0TV was going to release a nuked version, I wouldn't have even bothered with them, and because of the fact that I've been burnt from them so many times, I'm willing to wait 7 seconds for a DOT release that is of good quality. i.e. Look at the comments of the SG:Atlantis release. The FIRST post is about a quality question. What does that tell you? Sure, it's over BT - P2P that they "hate", but there's not way this is centralized over BT, I'd be just as pissed over IRC/USENET, and question their release all the same (and likely going to someone else). Yay! They get "credits" for releasing for... YAY! Fewer people care because they constantly release untested and possibly buggy versions. :/ |
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[#106247]
Written by: Chichipio [27/09/08, 18:53] Action: [ Reply ] [ Quote ] |
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Rant coming. Beware! You don't seem to understand. Your whole reasoning is based on an wrong idea. Despite the many comments that came after mine, you still refuse to accept that they hate the very existence of us in all its flavors. It doesn't matter whether you're using BT or USENET or whatever you wanna use, the point is that you're not scene. You talk about fame and acknowledgment and it's true that they care about that but, you're very mistaken on the "from-who" part. They care only (can I stress that word enough? ok, here it goes again, read it! ONLY) what other scene's members/groups have to say about it, so forget the "they've lost credibility in my eyes" argument. They don't care about us! So you can choose to maintain your idea on this point, only know that it's wrong and unless you change it and start thinking on this terms, we can continue discussing anything. We're are talking apples and you're talking oranges. There's no point in there. On the other parts of your posts I read yet more wrong ideas. Once you'll get the stated above, I think you'll stop asking "what's the point of the whole thing." but anyway, in case you need it explained, it's THEIR game played by THEM and for THEM, so they can play it in anyway they like and they don't need to explain whys or why not's to you or anyone else. Look at what you're saying from their eyes!! Think of this: let's say you and your wife and doing "things" in the bedroom and a neighbor is pepping. Would you appreciate if that neighbor start saying stuff like "hey, why don't you do it like this? I'd be able to get a better view" or "no, not that again, you did that just yesterday." The more than obvious answer is NO! the neighbor's point of view is neither asked for nor appreciated, so stop doing the same with the scene. If you're kinky and like to watch, be grateful that you can do so and stop complaining about how they're doing it! And if you're still not convinced at least try and think about this part. It's a RACE for crying out loud! Would YOU stop just before the end line to check whether your hair looks great risking that the one coming in second (cause' there's always someone coming in second, be sure of that) beats you to it?? Really, would you?? What if I'd told you that your 'fans' like you better when your hair looks a certain way? What? not even then you'd stop? Hmmm... thought so. So stop asking for them to stop and watch the file before releasing it just because you'd like it better like this. And another thing about the race. There's NOT second place. That's why it's so important to win. If you came in second, bad luck, your file doesn't get to stay. So stop asking questions like "why doesn't EZTV release the other version?" |
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