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[#187500] Written by: Bangladesh [15/08/12, 07:40]
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Proper reason: banned.faac.encoder.used_get.EVOLVE.proper
[#187531] Written by: Savre [16/08/12, 01:11]
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Can I ask why that encoder is banned? Just curious and unaware.
[#187535] Written by: kassyopeia [16/08/12, 02:34]
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The rule in question is: "Nero and Apple encoders are recommended. FFmpeg and FAAC are banned."

It does seem a bit off that they recommend the commercial apps and ban the open-source ones, when the
usual stance in this type of computer culture should be the opposite one.

My obvious guess would have to be that it's simply an issue of quality versus speed. The commercial apps
take longer to produce a slightly better result (higher fidelity and/or smaller size), which is why they are
recommended, and some groups "cheat" by using the open-source apps which produce a slightly worse
result somewhat quicker, because they want to win the episode race (only the first release is valid, all
others are nuked as dupes, even if they are slightly better, unless the first release is nuked in turn). Again,
this is no more than a guess based on very limited information.
[#187538] Written by: BoonesFerry (Moderator) [16/08/12, 02:39]
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A group of cappers (people who record the shows then transcode/encode) get together and create a set
of rules that all scene releases must follow. This ensure quality, consistency, and sets level playing field
for cappers to race (compete to see who can cap and post a file the fastest).

Line 65 of "The SD x264 TV Releasing Standards 2012" states, "FFmpeg and FAAC are banned".
Not so much that faac is bad but it is generally considered to be an inferior AAC encoder.

The SD x264 TV Releasing Standards 2012
http://scenerules.irc.gs/n.html?id=2012_SDTVx264u1.nfo


[#187539] Written by: BoonesFerry (Moderator) [16/08/12, 02:41]
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Doh!
While I was off reading up on the subject, kassyopeia beat me to it.

[#187558] Written by: Savre [16/08/12, 07:55]
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Quote by kassyopeia

The rule in question is: "Nero and Apple encoders are recommended. FFmpeg and FAAC are
banned."

It does seem a bit off that they recommend the commercial apps and ban the open-source ones, when
the usual stance in this type of computer culture should be the opposite one.

My obvious guess would have to be that it's simply an issue of quality versus speed. The commercial
apps take longer to produce a slightly better result (higher fidelity and/or smaller size), which is why
they are recommended, and some groups "cheat" by using the open-source apps which produce a
slightly worse result somewhat quicker, because they want to win the episode race (only the first
release is valid, all others are nuked as dupes, even if they are slightly better, unless the first release is
nuked in turn). Again, this is no more than a guess based on very limited information.


Thanks for the info.

Quote by BoonesFerry

A group of cappers (people who record the shows then transcode/encode) get together and create a set
of rules that all scene releases must follow. This ensure quality, consistency, and sets level playing field
for cappers to race (compete to see who can cap and post a file the fastest).

Line 65 of "The SD x264 TV Releasing Standards 2012" states, "FFmpeg and FAAC are banned".
Not so much that faac is bad but it is generally considered to be an inferior AAC encoder.

The SD x264 TV Releasing Standards 2012
http://scenerules.irc.gs/n.html?id=2012_SDTVx264u1.nfo




This was intriguing. I never realized the scene was this organized. I always imagined it as an
arbitrary race between random groups of people. Thanks for the link. Out of curiosity has anyone
ever made a documentary about the scene?
[#187559] Written by: kassyopeia [16/08/12, 08:13]
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There's a fictionalized mini-series. I haven't watched it and don't know of any proper documentaries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scene_%28miniseries%29
[#187562] Written by: BoonesFerry (Moderator) [16/08/12, 08:56]
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There is also a documentary in the works about The Pirate Bay...
TPB AFK: The Pirate Bay Away From Keyboard
http://www.tpbafk.tv/blog/
Release date: 2013 TBA
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